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Pay per conversation.

Not per seat, not per hour, not per lead you cannot audit. You pay for completed conversations with real buyers.

Cold Calling For You charges $100 per completed conversation. A 30-day paid pilot is $5,000 for roughly 50 conversations; a standard engagement is $10,000 for roughly 100. Every call is recorded and transcribed, and you review the transcripts before you are invoiced.

The number, before you ask for it.

Per completed conversation $100
Pilot engagement, per month 50
Standard engagement, per month 100
Meetings, per 100 conversations ~10

A pilot is $5,000 for the month. A standard engagement is $10,000. Both are month to month, both cancel any time, and your rate is set against your own unit economics on the 30-minute call.

What counts as a completed conversation.

A live, two-way phone conversation with someone in your market where a substantive exchange happens and a clear outcome is recorded. This list is agreed in writing before the first dial, and it is the only thing an invoice is measured against.

Billable

A real conversation happened and it ended somewhere

  • Meeting scheduled. The prospect agreed to a meeting or a demo.
  • Activated lead. Genuine interest and a clear next step, short of a booked meeting.
  • Not now. A real conversation where the timing is wrong, with a defined window to call back.
  • Nurture. Engaged, and a plausible fit on a longer horizon.
  • Not interested. Heard the offer and declined. At least a minute, with a clear outcome.
  • Referred outward. Reached someone relevant who pointed to the actual decision-maker.
  • Meeting rescheduled. Reached a prospect who no-showed or moved, and set a new time.

Not billable

Still dialed, still logged, still reported. Never billed

  • No answer, voicemail, or a bad number. Nobody picked up, so nothing happened.
  • Gatekeeper. Reached the front desk and never got through to the contact.
  • No longer with the company. The record is stale. I fix the list on my time.
  • Outside the ICP. Someone I should not have been calling in the first place.
  • Not the intended contact. A live person at the account who turns out to be the wrong one.
  • Confirming a meeting already booked. That is admin, not prospecting.
  • Any connect that did not complete. Cut short, bad data, needs a callback, or a do-not-call request.

There is also a cap. No more than three billable conversations are counted for any single prospect across the whole engagement. If a genuinely interested buyer needs a fourth and a fifth call, those still happen, they are still recorded, and they are still reported to you. They are not billed. The model is designed so that working an account harder cannot become a way to run up an invoice.

The guarantee

Conversations are guaranteed. However long they take.

Dialing continues at no additional charge until every conversation you paid for has been delivered: a real conversation with a decision-maker who matches the ICP I defined with you in writing. If a month runs long, that is my problem, not a line on your invoice. You are never invoiced for a gap.

What is not guaranteed is the number of meetings, and I will not pretend otherwise. Roughly 10% of conversations convert. If yours run well below that, the transcripts will show whether it is the offer, the list, or the market, and you will know inside thirty days rather than two quarters. Everything the engagement includes is listed here. The track record behind that number is here.

Whether $100 is expensive depends on you.

Follow one invoice through to what it produces. These are example figures. The only ones that matter are yours, and I run those with you on the call.

The invoice
Conversations100
Rate$100
$10,000
You pay
Per booked meeting
Spend$10,000
Meetings~10
$1,000
Cost per meeting
What a meeting is worth
ACV$24,000
Margin70%
Lifespan3 yrs
Close rate20%
$10,080
You make

Example unit economics. $1,000 spent, $10,080 back. I run yours on the 30-minute call, and if outbound cannot pay for itself in your business, that is what you will hear.

FAQs

AWhy bill per conversation instead of per meeting?+
A meeting only happens after a live conversation happens first, so the conversation is the unit that actually produces the meeting and the only one a caller controls. Per-meeting pricing quietly rewards booking anyone who will accept a calendar invite, and you find out in the show rate. Per-conversation pricing rewards having the right conversation, and it lets you audit every one.
BHow do I verify a conversation before I pay for it?+
Every call is recorded and transcribed. You review the transcripts before you are invoiced. If a call does not meet the definition of a completed conversation that I agreed with you in writing on day zero, it is not billed. I cannot hide anything. That is the point of the model.
CIs there a contract or a minimum term?+
Month to month, cancel any time. Engagements start with a 30-day paid pilot at roughly 50 conversations. There is no annual lock and no termination fee, and everything produced during the engagement stays yours if you leave.
DWhat happens if you do not deliver the conversations I paid for?+
Dialing continues at no additional charge until every conversation you paid for has been delivered. You are never invoiced for a gap.
ECan the pricing be structured differently?+
Yes. There are two structures on the table: a flat rate per completed conversation, or a lower base rate per conversation plus a bonus on every meeting booked. Some buyers prefer the predictability of the flat rate, others prefer paying more only when a meeting lands. You pick.
FIs $100 per conversation expensive?+
Compared to what? Divide what your last rep or agency cost by the real conversations they actually had. Most buyers have never run that number. Using 2025 Bridge Group benchmarks, a median in-house SDR lands near $116 per quality conversation before any management time is counted, and that is at full productivity, after a three-month ramp you paid for in full. The full comparison is here.

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